honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 6:03:08 AM
Downstream Today? Which rock did they crawl out under?
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SUVFan

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2012 12:02:42 PM
>Editorials are NOT allowed.<
Right. But posting "ok" is not allowed either and they allow that now without changing the guidelines.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 12:31:35 AM
Editorials are NOT allowed. How did you manage this GassPasserAB?
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ziyulu

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 10:26:38 PM
bigt61 from Virginia...
May I remind you that the President's name is OBAMA without the bizarre embellishment. You needn't agree with him, in fact that you don't, could make this thread more interesting.
However, as a citizen, you owe the office respect. Just the basic stuff you learned at home and teach your children now. Schoolyard puns belong in the schoolyard.
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bigt61

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 9:04:39 AM
At least Romney has a plan, Obama can't even pass a budget in the Senate for 4 years! Unprecedented in US History. If you care about the future for your kids, NoBama in November.
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TruthMatters

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 8:25:46 AM
"Fungible"?
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 12:28:37 AM
US energy independence is obtainable if one is talking about North American energy sources. What one has to remember is that the energy argument occurring in the US today is what sources of energy will the US use in the future to obtain energy independence.
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fedupMN

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2012 12:00:36 AM
blah, blah, blah....
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:47:08 PM
"... [B]ecause oil is a fungible commodity that responds to world prices."
That is why 'U.S. energy independence' will never happen. 'U.S. energy independence' is an illusion.
The U.S. domestic oil producers will sell the oil that is drilled from U.S. soil to the highest bidder. A foreign country that is willing to pay more for the oil that is drilled from U.S. soil than the U.S. companies will get the oil. This will happen even if there is not enough U.S. domestic oil to meet the country's demands. So then the U.S. retailers will have to import more oil.
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farn1958

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:43:55 PM
sounds a lot like a "campaign promise'
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:42:58 PM
Just political promises!
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dabbadu

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New York
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:41:12 PM
Utter, cynical, pipedream.
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mrbee

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:40:55 PM
Maybe someday.
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chen94539

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:38:27 PM
good article.
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drobbbb

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:37:48 PM
romney needs a clue
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Homito

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:37:40 PM
how we can live without energy?
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Homito

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:37:26 PM
energy independece is totally independent from ANY energy source such electrical and oil.
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Soglaos

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:37:15 PM
No
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5kvdave

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:34:41 PM
WHATEVER!!!!
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Jeff1944

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South Dakota
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:34:24 PM
But, the greenies who are opposed to any mining, drilling, farming projects, logging and hydroelectric projects will opposed through their stalling and more stalling, burning businesses and through the court systems to tie up projects on Federal lands for decades into the future.
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Jeeputtputt

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:31:54 PM
no one will listen, all we want to do is vote irresponsibly and complain..
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:30:21 PM
we need to be energy independent---BUILD KEYSTONE so we can get oil from a freindly neighbor
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dougerstew

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:28:55 PM
interesting...
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:28:26 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/green/article/Bush-drops-moratorium-on-offshore-drilling-3277165.php
history tells us a lot
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:27:37 PM
http://www.nyse.tv/crude-oil-price-history.htm
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Tekkersmom57

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:27:15 PM
Energy independence would be a wonderful thing.
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Jmac2008

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:26:43 PM
we drill more oil now than ever, when are people going to realize that it is just greedy oil companies.
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splitrman

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:26:28 PM
Is that an editorial or a vote for Mitt Ad
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fajeff01

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:18:26 PM
Really?
You mean drilling more oil in this country for the past 3 years than we have since the 1950s didn't improve our energy independence?
So you're telling me the Republicans' cries of "drill, baby, drill" HAVE TAKEN PLACE (during the Obama Administration) BUT ALL THAT DRILLING ISN'T WORKING?!
Not shocking. Especially since those cries of "drill, baby, drill" were only so the oil and gas sectors could make more money NEVER SO AMERICA COULD ACHIEVE ENERGY INDEPENDENCE! GET REAL!
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gilfarm

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:15:34 PM
Politicians
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wayoung56

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:12:20 PM
At least he knows "renewables" aren't ready for primetime yet!!!
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hunter86

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:11:35 PM
Nothing could be worse than obamas non-plan.
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monarch57

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:11:07 PM
Lets get on with it.
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Scottland

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:11:05 PM
The easiest way to get the resources developed is to place them on the market. With the Feds controlling the land, it is miles of red tape between today and future energy. In North Dakota, all the drilling is on PRIVATE land - not federal land. We could take a bite out of our #trilliondollardebt by auctioning all the federal lands to the states or people.
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bvrbill

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Eugene
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 10:09:46 PM
Regardless of who's in office, put a plan into action. I'm tired of all of the talk.
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Romey08

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 10:06:51 PM
Lots talk, but Oil companies are global
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jdc17327

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 10:01:15 PM
okay ... maybe he will walk on water
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GAC1Shirt

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 10:00:45 PM
A plan isn't squat until acted on.
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HailstormCA

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 10:00:25 PM
Something's gotta be done!
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MotoDad

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 10:00:16 PM
We don't need their oil.
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seeyardee

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:59:56 PM
The neutrality of this article is disputed. Besides, Mitt the Twit doesn't know what he's talking about.
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HA4CNN

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:58:46 PM
Just follow the money.
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Dougieda

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Boston
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:58:15 PM
Phony Dont trust him ..EDITORIAL?
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carranco

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:56:28 PM
Just get Ovomit out of the way and let's get it done.
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acvw74

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:56:20 PM
ok
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leemun

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Utah
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:53:49 PM
Thought editorials were not allowed.
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dirt girl

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:53:21 PM
ziyulu, Very well said.
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btcscoc1

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:51:53 PM
ok
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flsharktooth

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:47:50 PM
ok
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ziyulu

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 9:47:22 PM
Luckylindy from Milwaukee...
May I remind you that the President's name is OBAMA without the bizarre embellishment. You needn't agree with him, in fact that you don't, could make this thread more interesting.
However, as a citizen, you owe the office respect. Just the basic stuff you learned at home and teach your children now. Schoolyard puns belong in the schoolyard.
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